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Grants Subcommittee

Wellington City Council - Grants Subcommittee

20 May 2026
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Grants Subcommittee meeting

2:30:29

So any further questions? If not, thank you, Steven. No worries. We don't need you anymore. Okay. So I'm going to move it. It will be seconded by the Mayor. I'm going to say very little because I think we've heard far too much from me anyway. But I would just say that just looking at this in particular, I'm drawn to the Wellington Heritage Festival because I remember when that started, and it started off in a very shaky way, and the council did step in to help, and it has grown from strength to strength, and it is now one of the major sort of cultural events of the city, in my humble opinion. So anyway, I am in full support of this, and I'd just like to thank the officers for all the help in analysing what is a very complex area of trying to, you know, peaches and pears and pumpkins, and you've got to work out they've all got to be assessed the same way. And I'd now like to call on the Mayor who is seconding.

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Grants Subcommittee meeting

2:43:11

Councillor Foone, you look as though you're wanting to speak. I just want to acknowledge the Hockey Club and their mahi. It's in our ward. So yeah, just fully supportive really, and thank Councillor Al-Rubayyi for coming up to that meeting that day. I think it was really helpful to have you there given that this was the process they had to go through. So yeah, no, really appreciate the work from officers as well on this. And Councillor Abdurahman, do you want to have a right of reply? Okay, so I'll put the motion which has been moved and seconded. You know what to do. That has been carried unanimously. Hmm? Everything— well, it's the most difficult meeting, but all the votes are unanimous. So now we come to the Heritage, Resilience and Generation Regeneration Fund, and I'd like to welcome Adam McCutcheon to introduce the report. Welcome, Adam.

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Grants Subcommittee meeting

2:44:28

This is the 4th year of the Heritage Resilience and Regeneration Fund.

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Council Planning and Finance Committee

Wellington City Council - Council Planning and Finance Committee

18 May 2026
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Council Planning and Finance Committee meeting

1:30:00

Kia ora koutou, ko Richard Benge taku ingoa, Kai Whakahare Matua, Arts Access Aotearoa. I'm the Executive Director of Arts Access Aotearoa based here in Wellington. Our submission which has been made covers many references and research for you to take into account. But today I want to address the impact of the proposed cuts to the Creative Capital budget, particularly wanting to look at the value of arts and culture as social investment for our city. But I'll begin with an introduction to myself. I'm a Wellingtonian, and I would like to just run over some points about my career and how my career has been a big part of the arts and culture in Wellington. I'm particularly grateful for all the people that have backed me and have supported me in that career over many years. In an international public diplomacy role, I helped to orchestrate the re-flying event by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in 2010 when she referred to Wellington as the coolest little capital. Remember that? It was my job in that event to contract the making of the most massive symbolic and creative wreath of flowers to Flowers Manuela so the Secretary could lay that at Pukeahu. In the early '90s, I was the director of many Wellington Christmas parades which were umbrellaed by the Wellington City Council and the Wellington Retailers Association. I've devised several major creative community arts advocacy events, one of which Mayor Frank Wilde carried a flaming torch from the Civic Square across the bridge behind me to the Lambton Harbour Lagoon in a multicultural event to promote human rights and healthcare during the devastating AIDS pandemic. In the early 2000s, I managed Old St Paul's, the cultural events and conservation efforts for Heritage New Zealand and our city. That iconic building would have been lost to the city and nation had it not been for the courage of Wellingtonians and others who had the vision to save it. And for the last 15 years, I've been the Director of Arts Access Aotearoa and I've advocated that accessibility to the arts is the right of all people in New Zealand. Our national organisation grew out of the vision and founders who were Wellingtonians. It's always had the backing of Wellington City Council, and for 20 years we've been housed in the Toi Pōneke Arts Centre, which is your engine our city's engine for collaboration and influence in the arts that drives events and careers. At Arts Access Aotearoa, we've helped the Council write your lead arts policy, Ahotini, and made sure that accessibility was throughout it so that for seniors, youth, deaf and disabled people, you would all be able— we would all be able to participate in and help drive the arts and cultural events in festivals, in street events, museums, galleries, venues, assisting the producers and the funders with the outcomes they want for the people, and to promote the value of community arts spaces, Vincent's and Pablo's, so the most marginalised citizens of our city could be involved in their arts and cultural. So that they would be truly accessible and equitable. Wellington City Council is known for its vision as the creative capital of New Zealand, and I personally love how the Mayor is consistently looking into the camera ahead of weekends to tell the people what's on, what to look out for, what to support, how to get out and participate in the city, and I know you as councillors do the same thing. Often it's into the arts events, the festivals, the gigs, and the concerts. These events happen because of the long lead-up over decades in professional development of the arts workers, the technicians, the performers, the managers. And there are other cities in New Zealand that would like to take the moniker of the arts capital from us if we give it to them. So, Councillors, my main purpose in front of you today is that I'm not asking you to prioritise the arts and culture over water pipes and the highly complex issues of water management and any of the other very important infrastructural and rates management tasks you have in front of you.

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Council Planning and Finance Committee meeting

2:01:49

For any questions? Thank you. Any questions? No, I think you've been really clear. Thank you for coming in and making your submission. Thank you. We next have Felicity Wong. Welcome, Felicity. Yeah, you can sit at the table or podium, whatever you prefer. Hello everyone, kia ora koutou. 26% of Wellingtonians don't feel the city is lively and attractive, but 77% of residents support heritage, and History Places Wellington seeks a city history and tourism regeneration fund to support the maintenance of historic areas. Community-led tourism, and retention and development of trade skills. We ask for assistance to be given to building and property owners to encourage upgrades and maintenance to make the retrofitting of buildings with history more affordable than new builds. We support retrofit and conservation and advocate for repair and reuse over demolition and deterioration. HPW asks the council to prioritise the retrofit and reuse of old buildings to efficiently use expensive materials, support local employment, and reduce carbon emissions. Adaptive reuse should be our default preference over demolition and empty car parks. And it's such welcome news that the historic Dixon Street Flats are on track to open fully occupied, 120 homes modernised and refurbished by the end of the year. A sad contrast, however, is the carbon crime being committed by Te Herenga Waka, Victoria University of Wellington's demolition of the 80-unit Gordon Wilson Flats by not simply removing the tatty, heavy façade and replacing it with a lightweight glass frontage. The remaining 80% of that building is not earthquake-prone, and the enormous amount of embodied carbon in its sturdy concrete skeleton is instead going to the landfill. We want a strengthening of local planning rules to prioritise adaptive reuse and protection of areas with history. We view those places as drivers of local economic regeneration, civic pride, and sustainable development, and we ask you to retain heritage funding in the budget, which is not a very big amount. We support right-sizing our city plans and budget, focus on renewals and maintenance, not upgrades, in the city's enormous transport budget. And January's transport report continued to use misleading data for population growth, referring to 25% population growth expected in Wellington City Actually, we're 2,000 fewer people than in 2018. So don't accept the continual flights of fantasy. A sensible approach is a maintenance mode of renewals, at least until we pay down some of the city's debt. Thank you. Thank you, Felicity. Is there any questions? Councillor Chung.

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Council Planning and Finance Committee meeting

2:06:07

Yeah, I think that's a really good point. There's a number of things that building owners ask for. They ask for rates relief, they ask for expert advice, and they ask for a City Council that gets them to yes for investing in their buildings, including adding extra storeys on the top. And I'll give you an example. In the historic Dixon Street flats, the City Council asked the new building owner to make much wider elevators which would have been hugely costly. In actual fact, because of the existing use rights and the heritage nature of the building, they were able to say, no, those elevators have been working perfectly well for 80 years, do not put that additional cost on us. Thank you. We've got one more question from Councillor Rogers.

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City Strategy and Delivery Committee

Wellington City Council - City Strategy and Delivery Committee

7 May 2026
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City Strategy and Delivery Committee meeting

0:00

different to the names that you've got in your list, and even the addresses are different. So Tonks Avenue— Tonks Grove, for example, you've got, whereas Heritage New Zealand, which is not us, we're the advocacy group, we're an NGO, I might add, not the government thing. The government thing calls them Footscray.

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City Strategy and Delivery Committee meeting

1:16:10

The cake was very yummy, and you told me it's 8 eggs in that cake. I think I got 3 of them already. So, uh, thank you to you all. Now we go to, uh, agenda item 2.2, engagement on heritage listing. And this is paper bringing back what we have asked previously, directing officers to bringing feedback from owners and stakeholders on the impact of heritage protection.

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City Strategy and Delivery Committee meeting

1:16:42

It highlights a clear tension, which is strong support for heritage as part of Wellington's identity alongside real concern about cost constraints and property rights.

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Council

Wellington City Council - Council

13 Feb 2025
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Council meeting

2:29:15

Yeah. So in both— and I don't know enough about the Building Heritage and Resilience Fund, sorry— but the external staff recruitment and the external leadership training, we have certainly stripped those costs in there right back, you know. And so I think really reflecting for external staff recruitment, there are some specialist roles across the organisation that we do require specialist, you know, recruitment agency support to actually fill. Although, you know, we have managed the budget right down given the current environment that we are operating in. So we probably couldn't find that kind of saving from those. But as I read this REC, it's not specific to those areas. Those are ideas, and we could certainly look to find the $29,000 elsewhere at our discretion through our budgets.

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Council meeting

2:30:10

But the Built Heritage and Centre Fund, you can just take money?

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Council meeting

2:30:52

Yeah, so perhaps my question has been answered. I actually couldn't remember whether we even still had a Building Heritage and Resilience Fund or whether it changed to an Earthquake Resilience Fund. But yeah, I think being specific like that is too narrow, so I'd be happier if it was just ad hoc. Discretion. Thank you. And it does raise for me also issues around some of our caregivers that we let in for free, up to 2 I think.

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CCO Review and Appointments Subcommittee

Wellington City Council - CCO Review and Appointments Subcommittee

20 May 2026
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CCO Review and Appointments Subcommittee meeting

29:18

So coming up, Te Ao Kaporniki has joined with the Ministry of Culture and Heritage to provide visitor experience at the recently reopened Pukeahu National War Memorial. For us, this really is an opportunity to continue to weave stories of Te Whanganui-a-Tara into our visitor experience. and it's about connecting people in place and bringing their stories to life. Space Place has actually just closed on its very first film festival. This was a very first for Aotearoa. It's Australasia's only full dome planetarium film festival, and we bought the best of the best of Melbourne's Dome Under Film Festival, also known as DUFF. And this is around our strategy to continue to invite new audiences to experience Space Place. City Gallery Wellington curators are developing a NEN Street takeover that will open on July 31st, and this continues our work to connect with new audiences and open up more diverse stories within our spaces. And tomorrow we reawaken the building of City Gallery Wellington. Our staff have been away from home for 2 years, and we move home, which is so exciting, and we're moving towards October to open to the public.

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Council Planning and Finance Committee

Wellington City Council - Council Planning and Finance Committee

19 May 2026
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Council Planning and Finance Committee meeting

29:35

Tēnā koutou, Mayor and Councillors. My name is Shane Priddle. I am the Commodore of the Royal Port Nicholson Yacht Club. We're in our 143rd season, based at 103 Oriental Parade, immediately next to the Clyde Quay Boat Harbour. This submission is made on behalf of the club and is endorsed by 23 of our members who hold mooring or boat shed leases at Clyde Quay. And just a side note, I appreciate the feedback I've already had on my written submission from some councillors to date. I'm here today on their behalf and on behalf of the wider sailing community in Wellington that depends on this stretch of waterfront. I want to start with what Clyde Quay actually is. Clyde Quay Boat Harbour is not a marina, it is a heritage boat harbour. The historic boatsheds are a defining feature of Oriental Bay. The boats on the moorings are part of the view that the council itself uses to promote Wellington. People walk down Orrington Parade, they stop, they take photos, they are part of what makes that piece of waterfront special. The council's revenue and financing policy distinguishes between marinas and waterfront public spaces and applies different cost recovery to each. Clyde Quay has been treated as a marina. We do not believe that is the right classification. Treating Clyde Quay as a commercial marina and applying marina-style cost recovery year on year ignores what the Boat Harbour actually is and what it contributes to the city. It also produces fee increases that bear no relationship to what the council is actually providing at the Boat Harbour. I understand officers are looking at the heritage question, and we welcome that. We would ask council to follow through on it. The proposed 20% increase is not the start of the story. Over the past 3 years, mooring fees at Clyde Quay are already up by more than 35%. Boat shed fees are up by more than 55%. The proposed 20% on top of that means an additional cost of around $1,200 per year per boat compared with 3 years ago. In that time, what the council provides at the Boat Harbour has not changed. The sheds, the moorings, the public space around them are essentially as they were. The increases have come from a fee-setting framework, not from any change in the facility or the cost of running it. That is the question Councillor Confin has asked officers, and it is the right question. Where has the money gone, and where is it planned to go? Let me talk about who this affects. RPNYC is not an elite club. We are a community club. Our members are teachers, tradies, retirees, public servants, students. Some of our shared and mooring lessees have been at Clyde Quay for 30 years or more. Several are on fixed incomes. A further $1,200 a year is a tipping point for some of them. Every member who gives up a boat because of cost is a member we are at risk of losing from the club from racing and from the wider Wellington sailing community. That matters beyond our membership numbers because we are not just a private club. Through Wellington Ocean Sports, we introduce over 100 adults to sailing every year, many of whom have never set foot on a boat. We support the Wellington Youth Sailing Trust in delivering programs to over 100 young people per year. Over 50 of our recent Wellington Ocean Sports graduates have gone on to join the club. We host the Anzac Day Rally with the Turkey Ambassador and upwards of 50 diplomatic guests. Our goal is to double our membership by the 150th season in 2033. That ambition depends on sailing remaining accessible. Compounding fee increases run directly counter to it. We're not asking for special treatment, we're asking Council to classify Clyde Quay for what it is, to fee it accordingly, and to withdraw the 20% increase as currently proposed. I would also note that we are aligned with the technical case made in the separate submission by George Mason. Ngā mihi nui.

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Council Planning and Finance Committee

Wellington City Council - Council Planning and Finance Committee

14 May 2026
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Council Planning and Finance Committee meeting

4:27:43

Kia ora, thanks very much for the opportunity to present in person to the annual plan. I put a longer submission in, but I just wanted to speak tonight very briefly to the proposal in the plan to increase the fees for the mooring holders and the boat shed lessees in the Clyde Quay boat harbour in line with the Evans Bay Marina. And this essential submission that I wanted to present to answer was that these facilities can't be compared in any way except for the fact that boats are kept there. Um, there's actually— the proposal is not consistent with the broader annual plan, that there's a miscategorization of the, um, of the boat harbour. And thirdly, that, uh, the nature of the boat harbour is part of the, the city's spirit and part of the city's heritage, and that increasing the fees in the way that's proposed really is discouraging and pushing away people who use the boat harbour as part of the character of the city. So just maybe enlarging on those, those first few points, um, the boat harbour, unlike the marina, really provides no amenity to the boat holders there. So there's no ablution facilities, there's no security, it's not possible to live aboard. Also, the boat harbour itself isn't dredged, so for a number of the boats in the boat harbour, even some of the facilities that are provided like the breastwork are not accessible. So the substantial difference also extends to the fact that the The mooring lessees need to maintain their own moorings, so they're not actually council moorings. All the people get for their money is essentially space to put a boat in the water. All the costs fall back on the, the boat holders. In terms of the, the more technical submission, the annual plan proposal aligns the harbour and the Evans Bay Marina together, but actually In line with the substantive difference that I've just talked about, the Council Zone Plan talks about waterfront space, and it talks about heritage areas, and it talks about public places. All of those things are what the Boat Harbour is. It's recognised in the Council Zone Plan as a heritage area, and the funding, uh, the funding equations for those areas are different. So the marina is expected to be 100% fees recovery. I can understand that, but heritage areas, waterfront space, and public places are funded through general rates to 100%. So actually, my argument is that the council and the proposal has misclassified the boat harbour, um, as a marina, when actually it is recognised by the council as a heritage area, and that includes the boat sheds which are included in the proposal. I'm not suggesting that those who enjoy the benefits of access to the boat harbour and sheds don't pay some kind of reasonable fee. That's fine, I've been paying fees for a number of years, but the magnitude of the increase is starting to get to the point where you think the amenity level isn't warranted by the cost that's being imposed, and actually, do you leave the boat harbour, and with that, do you actually start to degrade some of the community the broader civic community. And that really just relates to the third point, which is it is a community down there. We're all part of that community. We do contribute into the harbour in all kinds of ways, and I think it will be a loss both for the sailing club that I'm a part of but also for the wider public to not have that facility populated in the same way. So that's really the That's all the submissions. Happy to take any questions.

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Long Term Plan 2027-37 - Workshop

Christchurch City Council - Long Term Plan 2027-37 - Workshop

30 Apr 2026
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30.04/26 – LTP27-37 Workshop

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We have been using the inflation assumptions as per our draft annual plan outer years, so we map that through. We will come to later in the presentation a section that will outline what those inflation assumptions are and the potential movements in those assumptions. Cool, thank you. So, through— so what does the overall council budget look like? So I'll move through this slide fairly quickly, but the key here is that we've updated the capital program expenditure to the $515 million, which is resulting in that bottom line, the change from what the draft annual plan is sort of suggesting. At the moment. So there's around a $65 million reduction in year 1. So when we come over to the rates requirement, so it's worth noting that rates and budget are not the same thing. We do not rate for everything that we budget for, and we rate for some items that we do not budget for. So capital is an excellent example in that— I'll go back a slide— $515 million of capital expenditure in year 1 only results in rates of $13.4 million, and that's because we don't rate for the capital programme directly. We rate for the debt repayment and interest expense that we incur upon it. And likewise, we have some items that we don't budget for, such as rating for renewals. You would not find a line on our budget called rating for renewals. It just forms part of the rates number. However, it has a rates impact. So the key here is the funding requirement in year 1 has dropped by $65 million, $145 million in 2022, so on. However, the rates reduction is quite minor from that. So the $65 million only results in a $3.1 million reduction in rates. However, you'll notice that number grows over time, and that's the cumulative effect of not having to borrow for the capital programme, resulting in cumulatively lower interest and debt repayment to Council. So what does that look like in terms of rates percentages? So the draft annual plan had year 1 of the LTP sitting at 8.64% down to 6.6%, 6.36%. Adjusting that capital program has reduced that rates requirement slightly. So that reduction in rates is a 0.34% decrease, 1.69 year 2, 1.62 the year following. So it takes 2 years to see the full impact of capital. So capital, that reduction has a very minor effect on year 1's, of the LTP's rates number. So it's worth at this point looking at Waters versus the rest of council in this context. So Waters rates represent around 30% each year of council's total rates requirement, with 70% for all the other council's activities. However, once we start looking at percentages, you'll notice here that the water rates— so overall council rates 8.3%, 4.91%, 4.73%— the water rates sit slightly higher than that. And that's for two key factors, being that water represents a smaller portion of the overall rates collected for council. However, it also gets a around 50% of the total rating for renewals. And as we are increasing our rating for renewals up to our target of being fully funded by 2032, that means it's getting around half the increases on those rating for renewals on a smaller base, which results in a larger percentage increase. That also results in the reduction in rates over time for Waters compared to the rest of Council, and that it sees a greater share of the benefit of the reduction in interest expense and debt repayment due to the lower amount of borrowing that has to take place as a result of those higher rating for renewals proportionally. So they, the all of council, the water rates and the other council all have their own rates increases because they all have their own bases. So like a percentage, you change the base, you change the percentage. So you can't just add the water rates to the other council rate and come up with the overall council rates increase. They each have their own path that will be applicable to them. This slide shows that— so the blue at the bottom is what we rate for in opex, and the items above are what we rate for, for our capital programme. So you can see there that around half of what council rates for actually relates to its capital programme. So while We talk about $112 million being 1% on CAPEX and $8.3 million of OPEX being 1% rates increase. In a proportionality way, CAPEX still represents half of our overall rates. So while it doesn't result in big rates increase movements, it's a bit like a rising tide in that it just increases the minimum base of rates that Council has to collect to keep paying for that debt repayment. Payment and interest expense. So we've been talking a lot about rates here and what it's made up of, but there's another part to rates, which is what can council control reasonably and what does it take time to change overall. So when we're talking about controllable versus non-controllable here, we're talking about what does council have material control over in the short to medium term? In a long enough period of time, almost all of council's budgets become controllable. So the example being potentially rates on our own properties. In the short term, it's very difficult to reduce rates on our own properties. However, in the long term, council could change the way it delivers things that would reduce that requirement. The inverse also exists as there will be items not on this list that have a non-controllable aspects. So the example I like to go to is software. We have an overall council software budget. It's not tagged there as non-controllable. However, there will be things like Microsoft Office or something that will be a requirement regardless to some degree. So it's about how much overall control in that sort of material view of control. So everyone will probably have some other items they would like to add to that list of non-controllable. We've tried to take a fairly prudent, high-level view on what that non-controllable is. So just those items on the list, what we're considering non-controllable moving forward. So you can see there in that graph, the non-controllable portion is the grey section. So around half of what Council rates for is non-controllable. It has limited control over its ability to increase or decrease. And that split becomes more stark once we start comparing water to the rest of Council. And that Waters is only around 30% controllable in any given year. And that's primarily due to it having a high amount of insurance costs associated with it, rates on the assets and networks that it owns, and a larger portion of the rating for renewals comparable to the rest of council. Conversely, council, the rest of council is slightly more controllable However, it's still sitting at an average of 60% compared to being controllable, with 40% being non-controllable. So there's a narrowing here in the sense of we know capex represents— ah, opex represents around half of what we can rate for, and that it's movements in capex take time to see a rates increase, and then further on to there, only around 30%— sorry, 70% is in the non-water space where it's more controllable, and then from there, only 60% is controllable. So it's a narrowing of where we can make material movements to achieve savings. So what does all that mean in the context of the letter of expectation? So the letter of expectation was clear that Council wanted a 6.54% rates trajectory moving towards the rates capping period. So what does that look like? So the first scenario here is if other Council is capped at 6.54% with water sitting— and when we say water, water supply and wastewater— sitting outside of that. Cap, which would be roughly in line with what a potential rates cap would look like in the future. So you can see there, at an overall level, if that was applied, the rates in year 1 would be 6.9%. That's because Waters has a higher— that 9.84% rates increase, down to 5.03%, 3.96%, and then below 4% thereafter. However, to achieve that, we need to achieve savings in the budget. So in year 1, savings of $12.8 million would have to be found. It's worth noting these savings are cumulative and that if you achieve it in year 1, you don't have to then achieve it again in year 2. So if the $12.8 million were achieved, only $8 million of savings would need to be found in year 3. The LTP. So those savings represent around 3.8% of the total council controllable— other council, sorry, controllable rates. It's worth noting also that there's two periods of savings that need to be found to achieve this trajectory and cap, being in year 1 and year 3. So we're not just looking at one batch of savings having to be found to achieve the rates cap trajectory. So what does that look like graphically? So black line there is the revised position, so that's that post Deliverability Review, and the red line is what we would achieve if we got the 6.54% for other council and Waters did its piece. You can see in the back end of the LTP period, the rates increases are higher. That is because the base has shrunk by that point. So because savings have been achieved earlier in that piece, it's a smaller— the increase represents a larger percentage. Another model that we've looked at is if the overall council rates increase was 6.54%. So, this one is more— it wouldn't potentially be possible to achieve a 6.54 in Waters and a 6.54 in other council. As we saw, Waters is largely non-controllable. It's difficult to pull back. So, the additional savings to achieve the overall 6.54 would likely have to be found in the rest of councils. Budgets. You can also see there that it represents a larger number to achieve that overall 6.54%. So previously it was $12.8 million in year 1 having to be found. It's now closer to $21 million having to be found, which conversely also represents a larger percentage of the controllable rates having to be found in terms of savings. Which was 3.8 versus the 6.2 there. So we've talked about percentages, rates increases, and as part of that, we've been talking about bases and the impact of changes in that base to the percentage. So for the Long Term Plan, our base is the '26-'27 Annual Plan. So changes in that annual plan will have an impact on the numbers that flow through into the LTP and the level of savings that need to be identified. So we've done a scenario here to sort of show what that sensitivity is. So we've got the draft annual plan along the top. This is the 654 waters excluded scenario we've used for both examples here. So there's our $12.8 million of savings we saw earlier. If, for example, the final annual plan for '26-'27 was at 6% and that was achieved through temporary savings, instead of having to find $12.8 million of savings, we would need to find $30 million in savings. And you can see that becomes a permanent increase throughout. So a temporary reduction in rates in a rates capping scenario results in permanent savings having to be found. To avoid a future increase. So bottom line along there, you can see this is a fairly substantial increase in the level of savings permanently that gets baked in. Also worth noting, the percentage of controllable rates goes up from around 3.8% to closer to 9% needing to be found in savings. So the other big movement we've got going on at the moment, which we've all been reading the news, is the risk to our inflation assumptions. So when we set the draft annual plan, we had inflation advice which was generally set back in October with a long-run view, but not sure anyone expected what has occurred to occur back then. So top section is our current inflation assumptions. So for OpEx sitting around 2.5%, sort of moving towards the RBNZ neutral position of 2%. We're still working through what inflation will look like through the LTP period. However, we've done two scenarios here, a medium and a high, to sort of show what the impact of that may be. So a 5% inflation would require $27 million of savings rather than the $12.8, or 4%, an additional $21 million. So we're looking at around a 1.5% increase in inflation resulting in potentially another $8 to $9 million of savings having to be found. So there's some other considerations that we need to put to our FS and modelling as we're working through this process, that being on the list there. So as I said, our inflation assumptions were set back in October. That represents a risk to our annual plan. We may not necessarily address it through the annual plan, and we may address it through other means. However, there will be a flow-on of that into the LTP. The capital programme is still potentially moving around as decisions made on that. The insurance risk there represents if the cost of construction in New Zealand goes up due to higher inflation, that will likely result in higher insurance being required. We've got heritage. We have two new major facilities which have been opened, so we are still seeing how the actuals compare to our original predictions and modeling. Changes in the rating renewals. We need to be balancing our balanced budget with these decisions, ensuring we're maintaining sufficient debt headroom for adverse events, and ensuring our debt affordability is maintained. So we'll be coming back to you with more guidance and requests for information around the financial strategy, as Peter alluded to, over the coming period, coming few weeks, months. But that was really our— an update of our starting position, the view from 10,000 feet, if you like.

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